But it should be possible to ask them whether they have kept a record of this speach. Durning was reassigned to the 398th Infantry Regiment with the 100th Infantry Division, and participated in the Battle of the Bulge in December 1944. Durning does not claim to have been a Malmedy survivor. 8. If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with, If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with, This page was last edited on 22 April 2022, at 10:34. Durning was a boxer, ice-cream seller and dance instructor before establishing himself as an actor. France honors Charles Durning . Durning, who served in the U.S. Army during World War II and was awarded the Silver Star and three Purple Hearts, began his acting career in his late forties when he was cast in guest appearances in early 1960's television shows where he played minor roles over the next decade until he gained notice on film as a sneering, corrupt cop in the multi award winning mega-hit 'The Sting' (1973). A report from the 12th Replacement Depot has him in England on December 20th, 1944. He also received Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor nominations for The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas in 1982 and To Be or Not to Be in 1983. 68.124.153.86 (talk) 00:34, 30 April 2008 (UTC) Gerard, Other than his wartime experiences, the article makes no mention of Charles Durning's career pre 1973. He is a member of famous Actor with the age 89 years old group. This may have been a mistake or perhaps not, but it would explain why an actor, in an age sensitive business, would not want to publicize a World War II war record. It is possible that a riflemen might be reclassified as a driver due to the extent of his injuries and be given limited duties in a FAOB, so it is not inconceivable, but the point here is that there needs to be some reliable evidence. In the past I've seen folks read an entry that said 'Bronze SS'and interpret it as the man earned both a Bronze Star Medal and a Silver Star Medal, when in fact it just denoted a single bronze Service Star for a campaign ribbon.98.255.89.22 (talk) 00:56, 12 July 2013 (UTC). We were frightened all the time. In 1980, he won critical acclaim for his performance as Norman Thayer, Jr. in Los Angeles's Ahmanson Theater's production of On Golden Pond opposite Julie Harris. In 2002, he performed in Bertolt Brecht's The Resistible Rise of Arturo Ui with Al Pacino, produced by Tony Randall. First, no one doubts he was at D-Day and the Battle of the Bulge, but he also told me he was there at Malmady. The rest of the Wikipedia article on World War II service is, as others have noted here, quite inconsistent. The Malmady Massacre was a horrific event in which the Germans, after the Battle of the Bulge, rounded up and executed 80 American POWs. [5]. I got to direct a TV commercial for the Kerry Campaign in 2004 starring the late Charles Durning. I have put some editing only text above the section warning editors not to edit that area. The inability of anyone, to include his family, to produce these General Orders, or even cite the GO#, must arouse curiosity, to put it mildly. I really think that this aspect of the massacre is well documented and available to every historian. The French government apparently issued a statement mentioning Malmedy, but the closest I can come is this[1]. 4. I'm guessing the latter was in response to Durning wanting to clarify things in the time leading up to his award from the French on 22 April. He was one of the military masterminds of The Invasion of Normandy that also landed at Omaha Beach. All rights reserved. Durning was born in Highland Falls, New York, the . [1](No mention made of service with an antiaircraft unit), In populating the Infobox, I made the assumption that Frances is Charles' sister because of the spelling of the name (instead of Francis), based on my experience (admittedly OR) and "Frances is a human name, the feminine version of Francis." It also shows wounded 29 Jun 44, which is incorrect in comparison with all the med records. It's hard to say for certain, but as many as 50 Americans were able to escape, including Charles Durning, Malmedy-Massacre-survivor-turned-character-actor after World War II. Kampfgruppe Peiper immediately began firing upon Battery B, sending the Americans into a panic. And the 20-plus years you've spent in uniform mean you have a highly sought-after skill set in the civilian world. Durning was paid a special tribute at the May 26, 2013, National Memorial Day Concert when "Taps" was sounded in his honor. I now think that whoever said that was correct. - On the other hand, if he were assigned to the 398th Inf Regt upon discharge from the hospital - as most accounts reflect - that raises even more serious questions. Charles Durning Height, Weight & Measurements At 89 years old, Charles Durning height is 5' 8" (1.73 m) . On that basis everything ever quoted is potentially false - a ridiculous proposition. He talked about how cold it was that day in the snow as they were hiding behind the trees. 2. . Durning received the French National Order of the Legion of Honor from the French Consul in Los Angeles in April 2008. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. But some quick Google searches, including this database of citations: http://www.homeofheroes.com/members/04_SS/2_WWII/indexes/army/Army-D.html does not contain the name Charles Durning. Discuss here please. Is it him, or someone who really looks like him? Tue 25 Dec 2012 10.24 EST. Earlier in the discussion somebody (rightfully) pointed out General Reynold's sentence "Few of these accounts are based on fact, and most are embellished and inaccurate". Durning was born in Highland Falls, New York, to Louise Marie (Leonard), a laundress, and James Gerald Durning. Preceding unsigned comment added by Deemery (talk contribs) 16:08, 26 December 2012 (UTC), In 1943 you joined the army, enlisting as an Army Ranger. Historical Popularity Index (HPI) 44. He landed at D-Day, was in the Battle of the Bulge, and was part of the Malmady Massacre. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. "Hollywood Stars at D-Day", Soldiers Online Army.mil. During the German attack, Durning reported that a particularly young soldier charged him, but Durning couldnt bring himself to fire. Whether you want to learn more about other famous veterans, polish up your resume, find veteran job fairs in your area, or connect with employers looking to hire veterans, Military.com can help. Chris Wiegand. The Service Stars (or campaign stars or battle stars) came in bronze or silver. In 1979, he played Doc Hopper, a man who owns a frog leg restaurant and the main antagonist in The Muppet Movie. He was undeterred, however, and would become one of the greatest character actors in living memory. He was discharged in 1946 as a private first class. a former professional boxer and a decorated world war veteran who took part in the d-day invasion at omaha beach, the battle of the bulge and was one of few survivors of the malmedy massacre,. He scored minor roles over the next decade until he really got noticed by film fans as the sneering, corrupt cop "Lt. Snyder" hassling street grifter 'Robert Redford' in the multi award winning mega-hit The Sting (1973). Born: 28-Feb-1923 Birthplace: Highland Falls, NY Died: 24-Dec-2012 Location of death: New York City Cause of death: unspecified. He was one of only a few soldiers to survive the Malmedy massacre when German soldiers opened fire on nearly 90 prisoners of war. Durning was simply not there. A veteran character actor who was a widely recognizable face in film and on television for over five decades, Charles Durning earned his place as a dependable presence often . Can someone decode this? We'll never know the whole story of his war years.I used to hear the difference between a "sea story" and a fairy tale was a fairy . From there he worked in a variety of plays. "I was the second man off my barge, and the first and third man got killed.". Blacks later book, The Battalion: The Dramatic Story of the 2nd Ranger Battalion goes into more detail about the 2nd Ranger Battalion. The current article, which avoids all discussion of these questions of fact, appears dedicated to burnishing and protecting his image, which seems a POV violation. [3][17], On December 27, 2012, Broadway theaters dimmed their lights to honor him. I tend to agree with David T Tokyo, but I'd feel better if the declaration appeared in a better source than the one we have, preferably an official one. Unfortunately, Harold Billow, the last known survivor of the WWII POW massacre, died at 99 on May 17, 2022. Who played Les in Tootsie? Durning is the only survivor of a unit that landed on Omaha Beach that June 6 in 1944. Military spouses are making a go of their dream jobs across a wide range of fields. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. Not because I wuld think that Mr. Durning did not do his duty during the war. Memorability Metrics. That place that no one knows about horrifying things we keep secret. In 1976, he received both an Emmy and a Golden Globe nomination for his performance in the television mini-series Captains and the Kings. Durning passed away on December 24th, 2012 due to natural causes and was buried in Arlington National Cemetary. I've received the docs from Oldbubblehead (tnx!) But I didn't know until last week that Durning was not only a veteran of World War II, but a genuine hero, awarded a Silver Star, three Purple Heart medals, and a Good Conduct Medal. Before I make any changes to his page, I have asked for some clarification from the Wikipedia powers that be. Division, and a former Chief of Staff for the 1st. Part of the reason he was willing to talk may have been because I told him some of my fathers war experiences from the Bataan Death March in the Philippines. And then you go and do a documentary feature film about the Bataan Death March (as I did last year and will begin screening on Feb. 14 at Brown University) and you end up gaining your own appreciation for the fact that history is just some agreed upon set of stories. It isn't clear if he were a replacement en route to a line unit, or a member of the replacement detachment's cadre when he was wounded in Normandy on 15 Jun (the initial replacement detachments were displacing to operate from Normandy during this same week). The net result was a commercial that was okay. But simply because I am interested in the Malmedy massacre for several years, which means I have spend much time on the question and read a lot of books. And even though the obituaries now are saying he didnt like to talk about his war experiences, he shared everything with me. Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.18.160.21 (talk) 03:07, 7 July 2009 (UTC), Every time I watch Star Wars episode IV (1977), I am certain I see Charles Durning as a foot soldier, Trying to defend the ship as Princess Leia records her message to Obi Wan in R2D2. I don't see this as accurate or fair. Charles Durning, an American actor , plays Mayor John Fitzgerald, father of Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy, in the TV mini-series 'The Fitzgeralds And . Those who did not escape, including medical personnel, quickly surrendered to the SS troopers and after being searched and relieved . a former professional boxer and a decorated world war veteran who took part in the d-day invasion at omaha beach, the battle of the bulge and was one of few survivors of the malmedy massacre,. He also points out that During's records only mention Silver Star, not Silever Star Medal. Hand color tinted photo of Charles Durning. [4] Given the scores of thousands of trained infantry replacements prepositioned in Britain in anticipation of D-Day casualties (over 88,000 replacements of all types had been 'stockpiled' in the UK by 7 Jun 44), it defies belief that the Rangers would accept a last minute replacement who was not even infantry qualified. Also, we got Paul Newman to do the voiceover which was fun I directed him over the phone but he did his performance at the end of a recording session for the animated feature, Cars, and he was very old by then so most people didnt even recognize his voice (which was a lesson to me in voice talent). He describes in detail being captured by Germans and escaping, but NOT as part of the Malmedy events--not even at the same period of time. Actor. infamous attack on American POWs at Malmedy, Belgium, and was the sole survivor of 40 men who took out a German machine gun nest. His family said he loved Christmas, and if he could have chosen a day as his last, this would be it. Durning was drafted into the U.S. Army just in time to fight in World War II. He doggedly pursues the young grifter, Johnny Hooker (Redford), only to become the griftee in the end. WWII veteran, dance instructor and diversely talented stage & screen actor were all inclusions on the resume of this perpetually busy US actor who didn't get in front of the cameras until around the time of his fortieth birthday. Other film credits include Dog Day Afternoon with Al Pacino; When A Stranger Calls; The Final Countdown; The Hindenburg; Twilight's Last Gleaming with Burt Lancaster; True Confessions with Robert De Niro and Robert Duvall. We owe him a debt of gratitude as we do the many other World War II veterans who served alongside him. . Born in Highland Falls, N.Y., adjacent to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, where his mother was a laundress for the cadets and his father a Soldier, Durning was the fourth of 10 children.. The Game Net Worth 2021 Forbes, Gacha Whale Chart, Charles Durning Malmedy, Black Bear Diner Keto Options, 1963 Kansas City Athletics Roster, Scholastic Choices Code, Ford Radio Repair Near Me, Catholic School Boards In Ontario, Jewel Sweet Potato Nutrition, Share this entry. I hope to get some kind of interview with him that can be published in order to cite these things, but with his current condition, I'm not sure it can be accomplished. I'm beginning to wonder about the veracity of Mr Durning's World War II story. Both his war record and his acting career were mentioned. Soldiers of Kampfgruppe Peiper summarily killed eighty The Malmedy massacre was a German war crime committed by soldiers of the Waffen-SS on 17 December 1944 at the Baugnez crossroads near the city of Malmedy, Belgium, during the Battle of the Bulge (16 December 1944 - 25 January 1945). After recovering for six months, he was put back on the front lines to combat the German Ardennes offensive. Durning is not listed. And then I flash back to Kathy Martin, the Kansas School Board Member in Flock of Dodos, who said shes comfortable believing Washington was our first President because people were there to see that, but not comfortable believing fossils could be millions of years old because nobody was actually alive that saw a lungfish crawl out of the water. As if eye witness accounts were more credible than science. May he Rest in Peace! There tends to be a correlation between the quality of character actors and how big of a character they are themselves. he and the rest of his company were captured and forced to march through a pine forest at Malmedy, the scene of an infamous massacre in which the Germans opened fire on almost 90 prisoners. In 1972, director George Roy Hill, impressed by Durning's performance in the Tony Award- and Pulitzer Prize-winning play That Championship Season, offered him a role in The Sting (1973). We would do three plays in Central Park for the summer. Aedwardmoch (talk) 05:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC)AedwardmochAedwardmoch (talk) 05:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC), There are different ways to calculate "most decorated" and it's exacerbated by the fact that some awards are delayed by decades. Durning won the Los Angeles Drama Critics Circle Award for his powerful performance in The Westwood Playhouse's 1977 production of David Rabe's Streamers. But he leaves behind an interesting question: was he at the Malmedy Massacre? This is four days after the start of the Battle of the Bulge and three days after the Malmedy Massacre.Oldbubblehead (talk) 06:39, 7 May 2014 (UTC). He was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor for both The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas (1982) and To Be or Not to Be (1983). This record will need to be linked on this talk page so that other editors can verify this before we can allow this kind of character assassination. It took Durning 5 years after leaving the military to eventually make his way into acting. Copy. Charles Durning, a Tony Award-winning actor whose prolific work in films and television included supporting roles in the classic comedy "Tootsie" and the TV sitcom "Evening Shade," died Monday.. (2000). He said, we all are. Charles Durning's first job in the entertainment field was as an usher at a burlesque house. It leaves you nervous about listening to the tales of war veterans. Nothing more. 6991 Guard Company. Worse, the 398th's own regimental history of its participation in WWII has a list of all its medal awardees; Mr. Durning is not listed as earning any medal of any kind with that unit. Durning was equally entertaining in the Billy Wilder production of The Front Page (1974), he supported screen tough guy Charles Bronson in the suspenseful western Breakheart Pass (1975) and featured as "Spermwhale Whalen" in the story of unorthodox police behavior in The Choirboys (1977).The versatile Durning is equally adept at comedic roles and demonstrated his skills as "Doc Hopper" in The Muppet Movie (1979), a feisty football coach in North Dallas Forty (1979), a highly strung police officer berating maverick cop Burt Reynolds in Sharky's Machine (1981), and a light footed, dancing Governor (alongside Burt Reynolds once more) in The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas (1982). David T Tokyo (talk) 16:30, 26 February 2009 (UTC), 12th Repl. 6. Division. Showing Editorial results for charles durning. Durning's memorable roles included the Oscar-winning The Sting (1973) and crime drama Dog Day Afternoon (1975), along with the . [12] He was an honored guest speaker for 17 years at the National Memorial Day Concert televised by PBS every year on the Sunday evening of Memorial Day weekend. [10] Additional awards included the Army Good Conduct Medal, the American Campaign Medal and the European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal with Arrowhead device and two bronze service stars, and the World War II Victory Medal. He was 89. Kudos to Oldbubblehead for excellent original source efforts! It was an awesome day. I'm afraid that's where your argument runs out of steam. [AlanM1(talk)] 00:56, 29 July 2013 (UTC), More Durning documents have turned up. Charles Durning, a two-time Oscar nominee known for a wide-range of character roles on film, television and stage, died of natural causes on Christmas Eve. They are unable to identify his unit or any records of his being there, other than the French consul saying so in their 2008 presentation of the French Legion of Honor to him. Rlevse Talk 03:12, 9 November 2009 (UTC), I realize it's no shame to have post traumatic stress disorder, but I think that any such assertions in an article must be sourced, as per BLP. Snyder, who polices and hustles professional con artists. On D-Day, you took part in the invasion at Omaha Beach, landing early in the day with a battalion of Rangers, alongside the First Infantry Division. Charles Durning will be honored for lifetime achievement by the Screen Actors Guild. It's a shame he is not more forthcoming; such vagueness merely arouses suspicion. While Oldbubblehead's research apparently verifies the Silver Star, the issue will not be put to bed until the GO (with its citation extract) can be located. [Ref: http://www.web2carz.com/people/who-you-know/2097/charles-durnings-war-heroism-exaggeration-fabrication]. But while I don't know Durning and have only met him once, he is close with several close friends of mine, and I asked them to ask him about the Malmedy thing. In Tootsie, he played a suitor to Dustin Hoffman's cross-dressing lead character. Again, am reluctant to cast aspersions, but not many men advertise their valor awards, but refuse to clearly state what units they served in. [AlanM1(talk)] 12:37, 17 July 2013 (UTC). What I know now, was and is still a missed opportunity for us to discuss this event, because like Mr. Durning, my Grandfather, Brigadier General, Norman Cota was an assistant Commander of the 29th. He played the role of Jack Jameson in Wendy Wasserstein's final play, Third (2005), with Dianne Wiest at Lincoln Center's Mitzi E. Newhouse Theatre. Durning married his second wife, Mary Ann Amelio, in 1974. Don't know whether you have seen this discussion of Mr. Durning's service: chris Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.179.70.124 (talk) 11:29, 25 December 2012 (UTC), Charles Durning was presented with the French Legion of Honor on April 22, 2008 (last week). 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